Réponse à la tribune de Paul Ariès

Dans le journal Le Monde du 8 Janvier 2019, le politologue français Paul Ariès écrit une charge extrêmement violente contre les végans dans sa tribune appelée « les Végans mentent sciemment ». A la lecture de cette tribune inouïe de clichés et d’ignorance et franchement cruelle, j’ai voulu répondre. La tribune de M. Ariès est à la fin de l’article. Ma réponse est parue dans le Monde des Lecteurs en ligne du journal Le Monde le 15 Janvier 2019. Je copie ici mon article entier vu que l’accès est réservé aux abonnés du journal.

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« M. Ariès tombe dans le piège de la « culpabilité par association »

C’est avec consternation que j’ai lu l’article de M. Paul Ariès paru dans le journal Le Monde le 8 Janvier 2019 avec le titre « Les végans mentent sciemment ». Mais quelle mouche a donc piqué ce monsieur qu’il doive se salir avec des stéréotypes, des théories conspirationnistes et surtout une telle ignorance de l’immense variété de la pensée végane et antispéciste pour la réduire à seulement quelques auteurs du combat pour les droits des animaux non-humains ?

Rarement ai-je lu autant de clichés en un seul article. M. Ariès accuse tous les végans de vouloir « en finir avec toute forme de prédation, en modifiant génétiquement, voir en supprimant, beaucoup d’espèces animales »… Mais cher monsieur, qui a en premier modifié génétiquement des espèces qui étaient libres pour devenir des objets à notre service ? Qui modifie génétiquement des milliards d’animaux esclaves en leur donnant des antibiotiques, des hormones, leur coupant des membres, tout cela pour servir les humains ? Qui, depuis toujours, modifie constamment le fonctionnement du vivant sur la planète, par ailleurs en détruisant le monde naturel par la même occasion, pour servir les intérêts humains ?

Je trouve hypocrite de renverser la culpabilité de ceux qui soutiennent ces entreprises de destructions écologiques que sont les élevages sur les végans. Ignorez-vous donc que l’élevage industriel est la cause numéro 1 de la destruction des océans et de la biodiversité en général ? Vous accusez les végans d’être anti-écologistes alors que par nos actes nous avons justement l’empreinte écologique la plus basse qu’il soit.

Ensuite vous vous permettez de nous associer tous, sans distinction, aux déclarations controversées de M. Peter Singer. C’est bien mal connaitre la diversité des opinions dans le mouvement. C’est un procédé malhonnête de culpabilité par association. Je suis personnellement assez opposée aux théories utilitaristes de Singer et encore plus à ces propos pseudo-zoophiles. J’ai même écrit un chapitre de mon livre ou je dénonce fermement la zoophilie, bestialité et pire, la zoo-pornographie. Ces pratiques ne sont toujours pas condamnées en France. Je ne vous vois pas vous offusquer de ce fait.  Donc, toute votre argumentation repose sur les écrits de seulement quelques personnes afin de discréditer tout une mouvance et philosophie que l’on peut tracer jusqu’à Pythagore.

Si vous lisiez mon livre et celui de beaucoup d’autres auteurs, vous constateriez que l’écologie est justement très présente au cœur de notre vision du véganisme parce que, pour nombre d’entre nous, il ne peut en être autrement. Votre défense de la consommation de viande est contraire aux nécessités modernes de réduction, voir d’élimination de sa consommation (demandées notamment par l’ONU) pour préserver la planète. En évidence, vous n’avez également aucune connaissance nutritionnelle (vous êtes politologue) de ce que le corps humain peut accepter ou non. Nous pouvons parfaitement vivre et très bien sans exploitation animale mais c’est un concept qui vous échappe car vous faite partie de ce patriarcat désuet qui trouve normal de violer une vache pour « l’inséminer » et de boire ensuite le lait de croissance destiné à son bébé. Si une femme donnait son lait à un autre mammifère vous seriez choqué à juste raison. Mais l’absurdité du contraire ne vous interpelle pas une seconde.

« Les apprentis sorciers » comme vous nous qualifiez sont ceux qui, en déni total des connaissances éthologiques et nutritionnelles de ces vingt dernières années, s’obstinent à croire que les animaux non-humains sont des choses encore à notre service et qu’il faut donc continuer à les faire naitre par milliards. Etes-vous conscient que la biomasse des humains (et de leurs animaux domestiques) correspond à 98% de la biomasse planétaire quand celle des animaux sauvages n’est plus que de 2% ? Il y a seulement quelques siècles, cette tendance était exactement le contraire. Autrement dit, notre nombre plus les milliards d’animaux domestiqués sont directement impliqués dans la 6ème extinction des espèces.

Notre prédation sur le monde vivant est directement liée à notre prédation sur la nature. Elle tient à notre complexe de supériorité machiste sur tout ce qui vit. Notre consommation de viande tue la forêt amazonienne et crée des zones mortes dans les océans. La France est le plus gros importateur de soja OGM du Brésil pour engraisser le bétail (et non les végans). Les océans se meurent par la surpêche et une large partie des poissons récupérés sont transformés en farine animale… pour le bétail. Et vous osez accuser les végans dans l’ensemble de vouloir la destruction de la nature ? Vous préférez perdre votre temps à vous attaquer aux « fausses viandes fabriquées industriellement à partir de cellules souches ». Etes-vous au courant que PERSONNE dans la communauté végane ne mange de telles « viandes » et je vous défie de trouver un végan qui voudrait les manger. La « viande de souche » est une idée défendue par les carnistes qui ne veulent pas abandonner leur goût du steak et qui n’a rien à voir avec les habitudes des végans eux-mêmes bien plus attachés à leurs burgers de légumineuses et haricots, très riches en protéines saines et généralement bios.

Non M. Ariès, la majorité des végans ne correspond pas aux quelques personnes que vous citez dans votre article pour décrédibiliser un combat de justice sociale. Par ailleurs, je pourrais vous répondre avec des citations de Lamartine, Tolstoï, Shaw, Plutarque, Gandhi, Hugo et tant d’autres allant à l’encontre de vos idées mais je vous les épargne ici.

Les animaux non-humains n’ont rien à faire, comme le dit Tom Regan, dans des cages, des cirques, des chambres de tortures, tout simplement parce que l’être humain est parfaitement capable de faire autrement et qu’en plus, comme je le montre une fois de plus dans mon ouvrage, c’est même nécessaire pour des questions de santé publique et pour nous grandir en tant qu’humains. A moins que vous vouliez également un retour au cannibalisme.

Vous vous décrédibilisez vous-même par votre ignorance crasse du véganisme et des végans dans leur ensemble et encore plus en ignorant par exemple quelque chose qui s’appelle « l’agriculture végane » qui ne requiert aucunement de l’exploitation animale. Mais pour cela, il faut avoir le désir de ne pas instrumentaliser certains auteurs afin de défendre des contre-vérités parce que nous dérangeons vos habitudes. Ces théories ou concepts marginaux ne représentent en rien la majorité d’entre nous et, contrairement à ce que vous dites, c’est bien votre assiette que vous défendez.

 

Véronique Perrot, auteure du livre « C’est quoi le Véganisme ? De la théorie à la pratique pour un mode de vie 100% éthique » aux Editions Le Courrier du Livre. »

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A View from Utopia

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Please check out my new essay published on The Flaming Vegan website.

….I look back in time and see a world I seldom imagine. I was raised to believe in goodness and kindness but what my history teacher taught me really distraught me. I opened my electronic history book and contemplated how lucky I was to be born now and not a hundred years ago. I look at how the Earth is now thriving again with awe and love and try to remember that it wasn’t always so….

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OFFICE LUNCHES TO DIE FOR

For all the Vegans out there, having to lunch/dine with non-Vegans is one of the most challenging moments of being an Ethical Vegan. Health based Vegans might not mind seeing animal carcasses on other people’s plates but Ethical Vegans would hardly ignore it.

I was faced with such dilemma last Friday as I was coerced (not asked) into attending an office lunch at the 4 Seasons Star Hotel in Beverly Hills. « Wow, chic hotel », you may think. Yes, it was definitely a beautiful place. The toilets even have their own sink with cotton towelettes to dry your pretty hands and you don’t need to share the sink with someone else (sic). So far so good, there is a little bit of eco-friendliness to the place. The restaurant was Italian and, lucky for me, made it therefore easy to get something Vegan. This was the easy part. I didn’t want to go but I didn’t want to lose a vacation day either (so many of these in the USA, right?).

So what is an ethical Vegan to do when confronted with this situation? I would like to point out that the day before, my boss came to me and told me what wines we were gonna have for the lunch (he likes to provide the wine himself being a connoisseur). I confirmed they were all Vegan! I must say that he tries very hard to accommodate my lifestyle and that is very appreciated. I don’t know of many employers who would bother. However, as you all know, a non-Vegan doesn’t « get » why eating with them is uncomfortable. As Vegans, we don’t see food, we see a being who has been mutilated, tortured, poisoned with antibiotics and other unpleasant substances and lived the most miserable life before being butchered without mercy to just end up satisfying someone’s palate for a brief moment (and we know that it is not needed). We have made that connection. They have not. They find the sight of animal carcasses perfectly normal as they are totally disconnected from the reality of what and WHO they eat. Each time I tried to explain this to my office manager, she quickly changed the subject after 1 minute once I started telling her about the intelligence of pigs. I can tell that she is disturbed by that truth and she chooses denial. She always had and the majority of people, when confronted with looking at what their food is, are. Once I had a postcard from an animal group laying around which said « Which one do you eat, and which one do you pet? and why? » (with a cat and a pig). She picked it up, intrigued, and started reading it astonished at what it said about the pig. So for a short time, she made some connection. But quickly went back into denial mode later. It is important to realize that some people may make the connection but don’t want to accept the truth and may never do so. And short of forcing them to watch Earthlings, we can only continue to plants seeds (and some even continue the denial after seeing Earthlings as the conditioning is so strong).

I probably drank too much for that lunch but was lucky not to have to smell it or see it too much. In the end, it was a mostly smooth drive. I should consider myself lucky. When I was at the Animal Rights Conference last year, I went to a discussion about how to deal with non-Vegans in the family and workplace. I heard some really tough stories of people who have a difficult time to make others accept their choices. I tried to offer ideas of how I have managed the small victories I have in my workplace. I truly felt for all of them. I don’t have a family to be accountable to, just my job. And for the most part, they are mostly tolerant. They even got me a Vegan birthday cake for my birthday!

How does anyone feel about eating with non-Vegans? How do you handle it? I would love to hear your thoughts on this and read your comments.

LIVING AMONG MEAT EATERS by Carol J. Adams

I previously read Carol J. Adams’ classic The Sexual Politics of Meat but didn’t review it (something I should correct!) and I consider it one of the best books ever. Carol J. Adams was justly inducted in the Animal Rights Hall of Fame at the Animal Rights Conference in 2011. I was there and that made me extremely happy.  So I went ahead and digged out a less known treasure she wrote a few years ago. The edition I have borrowed from my public library is from 2001.

One of the struggles of anyone going vegetarian/vegan for the first time (the author addresses both but with emphasis on vegans) has to do with dealing with peers. Parents, family, friends, co-workers, etc… have all known us for being… well.. « us » for so long that they suddenly have to face this new « us » which comes with new « conditions ». Thanksgiving is not the same anymore because we don’t want to eat the dead bird anymore, lunch with co-workers is done with them looking weirdly at the kale on our plate, etc… As the new « you » comes into play, also comes other peoples’ bad sides as they have to be faced with you not wanting to fit anymore. So how do you handle this new paradigm? For a lot of Vegans, making the shift makes us realize the suffering we never saw before. It makes us angry. Suddenly, we want to go out there and fight the good fight. We get angry at people who don’t « get it » and we forget that we were once in their shoes. That anger, for most of us, calms down and becomes transmuted into positive activism. For some, it is very hard to get past. What remains is the difficulty to deal with people who are judgmental, aggressive, and pretty much think we are freaks and to whom we have to deal with on a daily basis. So how do we do that? Well, that is when this terrific book from Carol J. Adams can be useful.

I must admit to having read it with great pleasure. It gave me new ideas, tools I had not though about in terms of relating intelligently with people who are not Vegans. As a (soon to be) Health Coach, it is also a valuable tool as it will help me take people on a journey towards their health by progressively going Vegans and open raise their consciousness to become more compassionate as well. My favorite point in the book is what she calls Being at peace and repairing the hole in our conscience. It is reminiscent of what Will Tuttle describes in his book The World Peace Diet regarding the conditioning we all have received since birth. Carol Adams explains that every non Vegan lives with a hole in his conscience because he misses that part of him/herself that relates to animals and compassion. Repairing the hole in the conscience means making the connection and wake up to the Vegan and animal lover within (i am paraphrasing). For us Vegans, it is vital to be at peace with our diet and not apologize for it. Who needs to apologize? meat eaters, not you. You are following your conscience. It doesn’t mean that you have to hurt them by being nasty and say things like « you’re a selfish meat head » even if we sometimes secretly desire to say so. One excellent reasoning (extract from the book) is this one:

« If you are at peace, maybe they, too, could be at peace living without meat.

If you are not at peace, why should they try?

Are you at peace?

If you are, how do you communicate that sense of peace?

If you aren’t, what is needed to discover a sense of peace? »

These arguments are all valid, I experienced them. I used to feel that I was on a mission to convert my co-workers (and the planet!) to Veganism in an agressive way, therefore taking the angry Vegan approach of pointing out how they ate dead carcasses at each meal. And even though the argument is true, it does not work. People get turned off. Being the example, being the motivator is what makes people ask questions. When I changed my attitude and became comfortable with being this real « me », people also changed a bit around me. People reflect what is in you. What is within, is outside too. For instance, an ex-collegue of mine suddenly got interested in my diet and started asking questions. So I loaned her the documentary « A Delicate Balance » (which I recommend by the way) and « Got the Facts on Milk » (another good one). She later told me that she actually went ahead and bought Kris Carr’s book « Crazy Sexy Diet » (Crazy Sexy Diet: Eat Your Veggies, Ignite Your Spark, and Live Like You Mean It! ) which kicks ass in terms of diet and what Kris thinks of animals. Another one sees me drink a big juice (freshly done with my juicer at home) at work each day. Once again, don’t push, let them come and they will ask. She said I was inspiring her to get healthy. So who knows? that may be a good sign (and her diet is McDonald’s). I get asked about what I eat almost each day and even though they may not change to Veganims soon, I am planting seeds which is a lot more efficient than being in their face with agressive words. As Carol Adams says, they are all « blocked Vegetarians » (Will Tuttle uses the term Pre-Vegan which is another variant on the meaning).

The biggest challenge of most Vegans is social, not being an activist. We are activists the moment we stop eating animals and their secretions. But it doesn’t stop there obviously. The way we relate to other people is what determine our effectiveness at spreading the message that Veganism is the way to free animals and ourselves. Carol quotes Mary Midgley at the beginning of her book. This quote sums up a lot of what we face on a daily basis:

« The symbolism of meat-eating is never neutral. To himself, the meat-eater seems to be eating life. To the Vegetarian, he seems to be eating death. There is a kind of gestalt-shift between the two positions which makes it hard to change, and hard to raise questions on the matter at all without becoming embattled. »

So it is a big point. Once again mirroring the fact that people are conditioned, they are also seeing the world in what seems upside down to us. We see them eat death and we try to open their eyes to that fact just to fall on deaf ears. What is the matter with them? Why don’t they get it? One way to cope with this is once again to see meat eaters as blocked vegetarians. « This person has a problem with my vegetarianism. It is their problem, not mine ». Think that way, and you will be more at peace. Vegans make meat eaters uneasy, that is inevitable as we appeal to their inner compassionate selves, the part of themselves that wants to remain comfortable and not disturbed. As the author points out, the mere fact of being in the room with non-vegans is already disturbing (if they are aware that you are vegetarians/vegans). She says it well: « People have many explanations for eating meat; vegetarians have heard all of them. If their explanations sound hollow, it may be because they are. For some people, their predicament is not so much that they choose to eat meat as that they have chosen not to change. As a result, interactions are often really about the nature of change – or, more precisely, not changing. » That is very true.

While Vegans can manifest their just anger for the suffering of animals, it is probably harder for them to deal with the anger they generate by being « different ». Look at this quoted Bumper Sticker in Texas: « Eat low on the food chaing. Barbecue a vegetarian. » or this one: « Vegetarians welcome… to watch us eat steak » (from a Minnesota Steak House). These are pure examples of blocked vegetarians, nihilists and people denying themselves. They have a Hole in their conciousness. There is not much we can do for these type but I have seen examples of what seems impossible. An episode of « 30 days » was about a hunter being asked to spend 30 days of his life among PETA Vegan activists and adopt their lifestyles. He accepts the challenge determined to not change and go home a happy meat eating hunter. During the process, he goes to PETA protests, helps rescue a calf (and nurtures him) and works in a Farm Animal sanctuary and get exposed to the animals. What is remarkable is how he transforms unwillingly during the 30 days of his new temporary life. By the time this is over, he still wants to go back hunting (sounded more like macho bravado than real desire to do so) but WE know he is not the same anymore. We SEE how he is transformed. That is the power of the truth. Another great example is the excellent documentary « Vegucated » which I highly recommend to show to non-Vegans. I agree with Carol that the people who are the most aggressive with you are probably the ones most susceptible to change. Their feelings are, as she points out, the most on the surface than people who casually dismiss Vegans as just freaks but don’t really bother them (or so they think). The more defensive the person, the more he or she feels guilty deep down and the more that person may change in the future. I see the defensiveness as a challenge, but a welcome one. That is hopeful.

The rest of Carol J. Adams’ book is filled with tips and good things to say in every situations from work to your sharing of the home kitchen. She goes into every aspects of the daily life, from raising kids, dealing with co-workers to living/loving a non-Vegan. You will not regret getting this book. It is a wonderful practical tool.